Kenneth Murray is a writer and public affairs specialist who campaigns for those with experience of care. Murray talks about how a community tried to get a children's home shut down, about his own care experience, his work with young men in prison and how labelling contributes to a self-fulfilling prophecy. Murray says '...we should give people a second chance, but we should also give them a third and a fourth and a fifth and however many it takes for them to make fulfilling lives for themselves.'